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Post by tommot on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:48 pm

could anyone suggest a rod and reel for lure fishing please

many thanks

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Re: looking for some new gear

Post by nixon on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:53 pm

What sort of lures are you thinking of throwing,it'll dictate the type of reel you need. Jerk baits,crank bait,small jelly grubs etc etc Question

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Re: looking for some new gear

Post by tommot on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:54 pm

a variety mate
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Post by nixon on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:07 pm

If you plan to chuck jerk baits,or generally big heavy lures then you really will need to get kitted up with a proper jerk rod,generally around 6ft,and pretty dam stiff. paired with a multiplier reel and loaded with around 80-100lb braid. My reel is the abu 6501 c3 with 80lb power pro.
For medium sized lures, I just use a 15-60gm spinning rod,paired with a 3500-4000 size fixed spool reel,loaded with anything from 20-40lb braid. Really depends on the maximum size lure you intend to chuck.
And then for really small lures,and by that I mean, jelly grubs,or miniature crank baits under 10gms. You need some specialised gear. I have a Jaxon Persius Ultralight rod. paired with a Spro passion 605 fixed spool reel (It's tiny) and loaded with 10lb power pro braid. For the wire trace,I'm using 15lb wonderwire,and the appropriate sized snap locks,and swivels.

For the jerk traces,I use 174lb solid steel wire,and 200lb duo-locks (the clip to attach the lure) I don't use a swivel on these traces,as they can unbalance some lures,so it's just the wire,and the clip.

Then for the general lures,spinning rod set-up,I have a mixture of traces really. Sometimes it's 40lb fox carbo flex. Then sometimes it's fox 35lb twisting wire,but I crimp instead of twiddling.

So there you go. Probably a lot more to it than you perhaps imagined.
Anything else you want to know,just ask. Between the lure anglers on here,we'll sort you out.

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Re: looking for some new gear

Post by tommot on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:10 pm

thanks nixon i really appreciate it and for the rod im with big lure and jerk bait could you give so some advice were to find one as i cant find them on the website i usally buy my tackle off .. mostly because its mostly a carp fishing site lol
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Post by nixon on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:17 pm

I have a few different jerk rods, My original one is the fox predator xs jerk. 1 piece,6ft (ish) as stiff as a broom handle,but is rated to cast 200gms (BIG lures) will take a lot more,but I don't chuck huge lures any more. Mainly Swim baits,and glide baits in the 3oz range.
My other main rod is the Greys prodigy jerk rod,rated to 150gms. A much softer (but still stiff,if that makes sense) action. I even use it to cast lures down to little over 1oz.
A good place to start you browsing would be Harris: http://www.harrissportsmail.com/Categories.aspx?CategoryID=2165

If your confused by technical specs,just ask.

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Post by tommot on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:24 pm

ahh thanks mate ill look into it as i wanna get ready for october :)
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Post by nixon on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:32 pm

Aah,then perhaps your better of getting set up with bait rods ( real baits,like roach,mackerel etc) Colder water,lethargic fish. Lures will still catch,but typically you'd turn to bait fishing come October.

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Post by tommot on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:42 pm

i was gunna just use carp fishing rods for that as they can handle cats i thought they would be able to handle pike ? or am i wrong in thinking that ?
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Post by nixon on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:47 pm

No,your quite right. There's no real need to buy specific pike rods. If you've had catfish,then they'll handle even the biggest pike you may encounter.
It's the end gear you need to know about. but that can come later. Chances are,you have all the necessary bits,except the wire,and decent trebles.

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Post by tommot on Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:09 pm

tbh ive only been pike'in on a couple of occastions and used to use like lures on my carp rods with some crap wiretraces from the local tackle shop the biggest ive had is 21lb, could you direct me to a place were i can get decent tackle, like wire traces, lure wires and trebles ?
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Post by nixon on Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:22 pm

It's all on Harris Wink

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Post by MrMakk on Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:05 pm

it's not all about the tackle, don't forget pike are delicate, handling and unhooking are a must. it'd be better if you went piking with someone who is experienced,
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Post by chief on Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:19 pm

it all depends how far in you want to go, i have 5 different set ups atm all different and designed for throwing different lure types/sizes.

kit 1 - ultralight - 2-12g spro rod and 605 passion reel, 15lb stren braid. i use this for lures in the 3 - 8cm range. rapala shad raps, x raps, mepps spinners, bombers, yogis etc

kit 2 - light - 1oz quantum rod and shakespeare mach 2 reel with 20lb power pro braid. i use this for slightly larger lures like spinnerbaits small plastics and also for my surface frogs.

kit 3 - medium - 2oz abu rod with quantum baitcaster and 45lb power pro, this is for light jerkbaits and plastics and smaller spinerbaits spoons etc.

kit 4 - jerkbaits - normark 3oz rod and abu 5601 multiplier and 65lb power pro, this is my latest kit as i found the fox jerkbait rod too stiff, big plastics such as the replicant and large spinnerbaits and jerks up to about 4oz.

kit 5 - heavy - fox predator xs jerkbait rod 5oz abu 6501 and 80lb tuffline xp. was my standard jerkbait kit util i got the above will chuck a house brick but i find that only a double will put a bend in it.

basically you need to deside what you want to throw as there is no cross over really you cannot get away with throwing the big stuff on a light rod and you wont be able to cast the small lures on the heavy gear. the middle set up would be a good place to start but you could choose a spinning type rod and a fixed spool reel in about 4000 size.

dont forget the other gear, you will need long reach pliers cutters a large landing net and as tim has said do not forget the traces.
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Post by chief on Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:27 pm

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/ALL-THINGS-FLY-Fly-Fishing?_trksid=p4340.l2563

this guy has alot of US gear at really good prices, i have bought from him before and i can vouch for his service
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