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Post by tootall Fri May 28, 2010 2:18 am

Dunno if you know guys but Chapmans angling are doing a lot of the savage gear stuff (4-Play/Deviators etc) for £3.99 at the mo. Considering i paid £10 for my 4-plays a year ago you can't go wrong at those prices:

https://www.chapang.co.uk/view.php?&module=products&parent=1132

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Post by Stotty Fri May 28, 2010 2:43 am

cheap and one of Tim (Nixons) Faves

rep for that...
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Post by tootall Fri May 28, 2010 2:51 am

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Post by patch Fri May 28, 2010 5:27 am

been meaning to get sum ov them from chapmans Fishing 2

and at that price well worth it
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Post by chief Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:33 pm

cheers mate you've just cost me 25 quid
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Post by tootall Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:38 am

It was a pleasure mate lol!
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Post by chief Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:41 am

thats me sorted for the river season, needed some cheap jerks for the river aire that runs past my street. its a real snag fest down there and dont fancy chucking a cobbs around it
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Post by tootall Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:22 pm

fair enough mate - at those prices it won't be a major loss if you lose the odd one to a snag Wink
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Post by chief Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:35 pm

the heavy rod and 80lb braid helps mate, but i have nightmares about losing lures.
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Post by Woodchucker Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:33 pm

chief wrote:the heavy rod and 80lb braid helps mate, but i have nightmares about losing lures.

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Post by patch Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:21 pm

lol!
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Post by Dave The Rave Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:35 pm

lol! so then lads what is the most expensive lurer you own?
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Post by tootall Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:42 pm

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Post by edbeef Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:47 pm

Patch was telling me about that this evening!

It's truly poor taste, I feel ill...

Or is that me thinking about losing it in the calder?
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Post by tootall Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:49 pm

if anyone could afford that then they have WAY too much cash..

if anyone could afford that and actually use it....they want sectioning!


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Post by Dave The Rave Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:51 pm

look at this stated underneath the pic lol
"We highly reccomend using the SmartLink Ultimate Lure Saver System
Click here for more information" hahahahahahahah
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Post by chief Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:52 pm

its a bit of balancing act really, on one hand you have the better lures which cost a few bob but have much better action, you also have to think that these are hand made and fully tested by their builder who's rep is built on making a qulity lure which runs true.
on the other hand you have the cheaper end which are mass produced so the cares not quite there. some of these have great actions but they can be inconsistant.
a good tip is to run the cheaper stuff through till you get a good idea where the clear water is, and where the snags are. unfotunatly thre snags are often where the pike are and where rivers are concerened the bottoms always changing anyway

oh well its only money Wink
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Post by Dave The Rave Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:09 pm

i couldnt justify spending alot on lures through fear of losing them haha i understand the reason behind and quality but it would always be in my head
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Post by Woodchucker Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:41 pm

Dave The Rave wrote:i couldnt justify spending alot on lures through fear of losing them haha i understand the reason behind and quality but it would always be in my head

Neil has hit it on the head really Dave, good lures cost money but you dont have to spend a fortune to catch Pike the likes of rapala, savage gear and pro logic all do lures that cost 5-10 quid which is pretty good. I have a small green plug that I bought from America that cost less than 3 quid I have literally caught over 150 fish on it both Pike and Perch, I also have lures that cost 30 X that amount that have caught less than 20 fish so dont be too worriede about buying cheap lures just check the hooks and slpit rings for quality first Wink
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Post by Dave The Rave Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:45 pm

what do you look at on hooks and rings to determine quality? also when chosing a lure how do u know what you are looking for if u know what i mean? its all new to me sorry if the wuestions are a tad thick lol
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Post by nixon Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:56 pm

Woodys really the best one on this,although I do a bit myself Wink
If you stick to the brands he named above you wont go wrong at all, I can 100% vouch for both savage gear and salmo lures, both are what I'd say were idiot proof lures, in the respect that you could know next to nothing about lure fishing,clip it on,cast out,retrieve however you fancy,and have a dam good chance of hooking into something.
In the early stages of lure fishing,you wont need to worry about what hooks,or what split rings really,as an "off the shelf" savage,salmo or rapala lure are fitted with quality components,like the eagle claw trebles,and super strong split rings.
as you progress with you fishing tho, your bound to get into making your own jerk-bait traces,and therefor will need to know different breaking strains/diameter wires, lb'age of swivels and so on, but for now,take on board what the woodchucker advises,and you wont go wrong Wink
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Post by nixon Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:02 pm

I should have also answered your bit about what you were looking for, If I understand your question, then when you buy lures, they'll say whether they're a surface lure/floating, slow sinker,sinker, or with spoons you already know they're gunna sink fast,so are suited to deeper water,and getting down to where the fish are. So depending on the type of water you intend to chuck them into (shallow/deep/canal/river/lake etc) you have to select the appropriate lure for that given situation. IE: you would'nt really clip on a heavy spoon to fish in a river only 5ft deep with heavy weed coverage (unless...it was fitted with weedless trebles that is Wink ) and you also would clip a surface lure on in the dead of winter fishing an 80ft deep lake,so its all about having the right lure,for the area/season you choose to fish.
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Post by Dave The Rave Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:10 pm

yeah that makes sence thanks mate
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Post by Woodchucker Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:14 pm

If the hooks look cheap and weak then they probably are, replace them with hooks that are like for like in size and you will be fine, get a set of pliers on the hook and give them a good solid pull, if the split ring stays put and solid then they will be fine if there is any splitting or give in them, replace them at once.

What too by is a bit of a nightmare because what works on one water does not always work on another, for example, if you use a large deep diving plug on a canal then it will snag up all the time, using a plug that dives to 3ft over 100ft on Windermere would be pointless, so pick lures that fit the venues you fish, once you have sorted that out then you can think about size and colour affraid
Size wise i would stay small, the reason for this is that you will always have a chance of taking Pike, Perch, Chub and Trout but if you use larger lure you will single out Pike alone which is not what lure fishing is all about, dont get me wrong I love catching big Pike but if you offer me 30-40 fish with an odd double thrown in or a 20lb Pike, then I would take the numbers every time becasue its all about the take, the first moment when the rod bucks in you hards or a fish comes up from behind and swallows a lure so quickley that everything goes slack is what its all about.
Colour cand be a personal thing but its worth having a bright yellow/orange or green lure for dark and coloured water and some natural Perch, Roach colours for clear water, but dont be affraid to use bright colours in clear water because sometmes they work as well, the Pike will let you know whats working when you get it right Wink
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Post by Dave The Rave Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:36 pm

i see what you mean im thinking of having a go up and down the canal outside my appartment would a normal spinning rod and a standard reel coupled up with 10lb line and a trace be sufficient and safe to get me off the mark??
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