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some strange ways of hooking deadbaits from long ago

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Post by craigpix2000 Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:25 pm

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the 1 in the bottom right intrests me i cant see how it would have worked scratch
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Post by craigpix2000 Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:29 pm

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Post by nixon Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:30 pm

The bottom right one looks deadly as fook, with the hooks postioned right at the baits head, its just gunna get deep hooked every time, and with the extreme lack of bite indication they would have had in those days, I imagine a lot of fish were killed and not returned.
Not a safe rig at all. pale
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Post by Woodchucker Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:32 pm

I think some of these could be for wobbling and livebaiting scratch
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Post by craigpix2000 Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:32 pm

nixon wrote:The bottom right one looks deadly as fook, with the hooks postioned right at the baits head, its just gunna get deep hooked every time, and with the extreme lack of bite indication they would have had in those days, I imagine a lot of fish were killed and not returned.
Not a safe rig at all. pale

dont worry boys im not intending fishing any of theese rigs just looked intresting.you gotta remmember along time ago they would have just been for the table so maybe the deep hooking was the idea Question
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Post by nixon Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:33 pm

Figure 6 on the second picture would suggest wobbling yeah, with the vein positioned at the baits head to give more action, they liked plenty of hooks huh.
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Post by NIDGE MAC Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:07 pm

craigpix2000 wrote:some strange ways of hooking deadbaits from long ago Image177

the 1 in the bottom right intrests me i cant see how it would have worked scratch

fig 8 that was the method i used, but with a single barbless hook and it worked....
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Post by nixon Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:11 pm

8 would be good, if you replaced the part in its head for a pop up of some kind, and mounted the hooks further down towards its tail.
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Post by Trash Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:23 pm

how many hooks can you fit in one rig? a lot going by the first couple
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Post by channa Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:59 pm

Alot of folk would of eaten pike back then so i dont think they were to botherd about it goin back alive...
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Post by billy barbel Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:00 pm

Its funny looking back at fishing rigs like those and easy to forget how lucky we are today. The guys using those rigs were pioneers of the tackle we use these days many of them would have tried and tested and then sorted out the good from the bad in those days. We have the benefit of all their experience and also we now have scientists to help us understand fish habits etc and many many tackle consultants out there trying it out every day, maybe one day people will look back on our gear and just think.............................TARTS!!!!!
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Post by channa Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:10 pm

Or they might look back and say how primative
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Post by Woodchucker Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:21 pm

But when you actually look at the rigs, there not that much different scratch
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Post by NIDGE MAC Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:34 pm

very true ady......
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Post by channa Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:39 pm

As ive said before i know newt about fishing i just enjoy it!!!
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Post by craigpix2000 Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:41 pm

1 thing i still cant get my head round is what is that in the first pic fig5 some sort of unhooking tool Question
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Post by Woodchucker Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:45 pm

Infact figure 2 on the second page is the rig I tend to use for free roving live baits now, and the one in the bottom left hand corner is now coming back into fashion with Mick Brown with the sigle hooks so have we actually come a full circle scratch
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Post by billy barbel Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:49 pm

yeah its a long handled discorger craig you can still buy them now but they tend to be plastic these days
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Post by channa Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:50 pm

And i have one!!! lol!
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Post by Stotty Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:52 pm

Bloody hell some of those look like the carp rigs I pulled out of the trees on that work party

that first one could do with some more hooks though Cool Smoking
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Post by joel Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:59 pm

when these rigs where used all pike where for the table.until quite recently pike men would light a cig at the 1st sign of a take then pick up the rods when they'd finished it.In norfolk a particulary nasty pike catching method was to use these long poles with a large hook on the end.the hook was for lifting these round plate things that had a live bait under it.when the plate flipped over the poacher or angler would lift the round plate thing out with the fish usually dead.They'd place these things up & down the fens & leave en for a few days....nasty.But back then they did'nt have a tesco,so thats how it was.

this book will make you smile has to how pike where looked at.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pPBIAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=history+of+pike+fishing
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Post by channa Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:46 pm

I didnt think they would be botherd bout deep hooking them,there they were table meat back then.. affraid
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