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Re: Chew Valley

Post by Woodchucker on Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:29 am

noodle wrote:
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noodle wrote:should we have a sweep on the size he gets??#

ill have 8lb clown

Seen your new lures tonight John Gay Boy YMCA Gay Boy Thats all I am going to say about that HaHaHa

And if I do catch an 8lber it will be going back out hooked up Innocent Whistle

ive not seen em yet thats not fair

are they really that camp? as much as the one in my profile
hope so there is a little lake in cumbria with that pink one in mind and one swim in particular fishing an underwater rock face

fingers crossed they work deep and slow enough most floating pull baits wont hence the flat rise request it helps keep em deeper and lets you be ever so slow at times Innocent Whistle

i bet they look better than those canuk things you use drunken

anyway best of luck on chew its not doing too well this year sadly there is time yet though

A pink lure is always going to be Gay Boy John, they actually look really well, he is just re-finishing my A, B and C lures so I should have them back for Chew Mexican Wave

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Re: Chew Valley

Post by noodle on Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:19 am

abc lures??
lots of dodgy names there, seriously though is that a personal naming system or something else
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Post by Woodchucker on Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:32 am

If A-lure B-lure and C-lure arnt catching then the Pike arnt feeding Cool Smoking

They are all Cobbs Countdowns Yup

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Post by noodle on Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:40 am

right got you no pull baits dive rise or whatever they may be called in yorkshire?

im loathe to go anywhere without one or two sadly thought they are all low class (lol) lures things like hell tails t bones sand cats and the like

hence the two little boys inject a little class id love a tremor from truglide though
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Post by healdy on Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:23 am

................ feels like i am interupting a chat between two gay lovers lol!


But heres my gay pink lure which i know Noodle will appreciate Wink


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I've also been waiting over a month for some new ones from Mark Berrisford - is that normal or should i be chasing him?


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Re: Chew Valley

Post by Woodchucker on Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:59 am

I have a Pink Bulldawg Ashamed

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Post by noodle on Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:54 am

AH a db4 in micklepink if im not mistaken lol

a month isnt too bad bear in mind they are being made from scratch ive been waiting a while for the little boys. i work on the fact that these people have jobs and do the lures on the side for people like us to buy

ill do some pinkness later oh and some black as well
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Re: Chew Valley

Post by chief on Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:21 am

all my lures are manly, no pink ones in my bag lol

although i hear its a good colour.

not had much joy with the hell tails noodle, how do you find them?
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Post by Woodchucker on Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:54 am

chief wrote:all my lures are manly, no pink ones in my bag lol

although i hear its a good colour.

not had much joy with the hell tails noodle, how do you find them?

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Post by chief on Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:17 pm

does the biz though mate Wink
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Post by Woodchucker on Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:31 pm

Still looks like a butt plug, not that I know what one of those is Innocent Whistle

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Post by noodle on Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:31 pm

where to begin with the hell tails

a few lures sold me on lure fishing after years of thinking it was a pee take

one was a hell tail (ace) that caught me my first lure caught 20 from esthwaite others are the ace flipper and fat flipper ace sweet shad and fox gremlin

without those i probably wouldnt have become the lure saddo i am today

anyway just for healdy a bit of smut


the last pic shows a new db4 with screw eyes old through wired one pup 5, db5, t6, and p6 from left to right for a little comparison only one of those has never seen a fish anyone guess which
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Post by noodle on Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:32 pm

Woodchucker wrote:Still looks like a butt plug, not that I know what one of those is Innocent Whistle

thats what i thought abc stood for

anal intruder
butt pluck
c**k

i didnt want to speculate too much though clown
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Re: Chew Valley

Post by chief on Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:56 pm

i think you may need therapy for your smuttly addiction noodle lol!
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Post by healdy on Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:42 pm

Wow Noodle


I just love that collection ...............

One day mine will look like that helpme - i particularly love the yellow ones.

I have caught on my silver best - the pink has caught but an orange perch pattern just hasnt worked - it even moves differently confused

I can't wait for the weed to die so we can get on the S&K and make use of my improved technique and lure collection.

Do we really need them all though - if we stopped changing and persevered with simple alternatives - ie natural [silver or perch] or alternatively a flouro - orange or pink - would we catch as many pike ................or is that just part of the game geek

I have to admit i am not as keen to throw the larger lures - though i have seen them work for Woody and Chief - most of mine are 4.5 to 5.5 inch............though i would like a chico's manta.


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Post by chief on Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:42 pm

the mantas are good baits mate as you have seen. they are real good for fishing slow as they have a good hang time. the super shallow is a tad lighter and you would have no probs chucking it with your set up but it does struggle to get down.

still not the biggest fan of the smutleys, however i have had a bit more time for them latley.
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Post by noodle on Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:11 pm

chief wrote:the mantas are good baits mate as you have seen. they are real good for fishing slow as they have a good hang time. the super shallow is a tad lighter and you would have no probs chucking it with your set up but it does struggle to get down.

still not the biggest fan of the smutleys, however i have had a bit more time for them latley.

mantas where to start i hated them for years then after learning a bit more ive bought a couple and am loving them

why didnt you like the smuts
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Post by chief on Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:17 pm

dunno mate, when i got mine i also got a manta and a kellje lundberg big stalker. i think these were the first real quality jerkbaits i got and the other two were easier to work in the style i like, wide slow swings, the db5 had a faster sink rate and a tighter wiggle which i have now learnt to control a bit better and can get it doing what i want a bit more
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Post by noodle on Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:31 pm

the stalkers are nice granted i dont have anthe reasons i lIke they now though.

the dbs do behave a little more wobbly than most glides i think thats one of the reasons i like em
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Post by Woodchucker on Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:39 pm

Getting into an interesting thread this, I honestly like the Smutts although I dont own one, but the ones I have tried off the lads tell me that I would catch well on them, the manta is a odd bait because I think they are a bit easy to use, which to most would sound silly but let me explain. The art of lure fishing for to me is to get the best of what you have on the end of your trace and make it do what you want it to do, John asked me what my A, B and C lure are and they are 3 Cobbs that are almost falling apart due to tooth damage from Pike, I can make them three lures dance in a way that if there are Pike feeding in that swim, I will get a take!
Its not all about buying tonnes of lures in every colour of the rainbow, its about mastering every lure that you own, the next time you are out fishing dig that lure out of your bag that looks good but does not work as good as the rest and leave the rest at home, use it until you catch with it, work with its action not against it and just remember that its the weak/injured fish that stand out of a shoal and makes the Pike strike Wink

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Post by chief on Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:39 pm

there is that mate, i suppose the more eratic action could be an advantage. i have 2 stalkers the fist one i got is one of my fave lures it is very slow to sink and the glides i can get it on are really good, the other one i bought to give me a colour change and has a completely different action i cannot get it to glide as wide and it tends to pull to one side, could be weighted wrong scratch
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Post by Woodchucker on Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:47 pm

I am going to prove this by taking three Cobbs out of my box that have never hit the water in combat and I will see if my fishing catch rate gets better or worse drunken

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Post by noodle on Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:46 pm

chief wrote:there is that mate, i suppose the more eratic action could be an advantage. i have 2 stalkers the fist one i got is one of my fave lures it is very slow to sink and the glides i can get it on are really good, the other one i bought to give me a colour change and has a completely different action i cannot get it to glide as wide and it tends to pull to one side, could be weighted wrong scratch

hand made wood can be like this its part of the attraction

try different hooks rings anything see what happens

woody yup your right i have a relativly small selection of lures a si tend to have a few of each ones i really rate i will have four of ones that are legendary (in my head at least i will have more than four) why four well it gives me a light dark natural and random pattern in that lure.
im not a fan of the cobbs they work yes they are nice yes but for some reason leave me cold and uninspired so they will not catch me man fish (just sold the topwater one i bought three maybe four months ago) i do prefer a more erraitc bait as a lot of my fishing is in open water or over deep weed (love of pullbaits explained there as well) the wider gliding lures i tend to favour get used more when fishing to features like tree cover emergent weed or other structure above water where i can steer the glide bait into it pull baits are great for teasing weed or working up and down vertical features erratic gliders like T6's4's db and to a lesser extent the db5's are great in open water they move a shed load of water and the ever so unpredictable nature give of a larger presence than a left right left right pattern
db4's are probably the most important lure in my collection as they are so versatile. If you want a more classic glide path from the smuttly stable then try the p6

anyway back to chew you need one of two mindsets for me on there
either cath lots and lots hoping that numbers equals higher chance of picking up an outsize fish
or s**t or bust for a kipper monster lures and baits etc
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Post by Woodchucker on Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:08 pm

Me and Scotty are lure anglers but we do a good bit on Windy so fishing from a solid anchor will not be an issue to us unlike some of the Norfolk boys who fish in less than 10ft of water most of the time. We will get a topo of Chew and sit down and study it a few weeks before so that we know what looks right under water before we even see the place, we will take weather conditions into consideration before heading to our first spot. We will then fan cast around the boat with lures before dropping a bait off on the feature and lure fish around them, hopefully it will produce a few takes Boat Fishin

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Post by healdy on Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:43 am

If you want a more classic glide path from the smuttly stable then try the p6

I think you hit the nail on the head there - last year was our first lure winter [chief and I]- i became totally preoccupied by getting the 'classic' action - glide etc from our new found technique.

I absolutely take the point and agree that a major attraction of a lure is the replication of a dying injured fish.

I love my DB4's and they do have a different more 'random' action.

I'm deadbaiting in the morning - then carping for 3 nights - all this talk is making me want to get the jerkbait gear out Wink

Can't wait to hear how you get on at Chew - Woody - i will watch for your reports on the blog.


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