popping up deads using fox wood inserts

rite ive just got some

what i want to know is do i atatch some trace wire to that with a snap swivel on the other end then just clip it to 2nd trebble

I run a trace from the back treble then you can ether ram it up the ass of the dead or in the mouth sounds like a film I have at home.

when attaching your bouyant pop up there are many different ways of doing it but it must be captive on your rig this makes sure the pike cannot swallow it
you could use fuse wire but although its a quick way of attaching them can it can be a bit fiddly if your hands are cold on the day
a good idea would be to make yourself some of these which is very easy indeed


you can then just slide them on and off the trace when required and can be re-used time and time again and also you can then attach other types of pop up for your piking cause of the quick change clip on the end
this are threaded through the bait



and if you want to resort back to a bottom bait its a case of just taken if of the trace .
i aslo make some for popping up live baits or smaller baits over weed





hope this helps

look at that what more can you say nice one Kevin have some more rep for that

thought you,de like them stotty

tackle tart wrote:when attaching your bouyant pop up there are many different ways of doing it but it must be captive on your rig this makes sure the pike cannot swallow it
you could use fuse wire but although its a quick way of attaching them can it can be a bit fiddly if your hands are cold on the day
a good idea would be to make yourself some of these which is very easy indeed


you can then just slide them on and off the trace when required and can be re-used time and time again and also you can then attach other types of pop up for your piking cause of the quick change clip on the end
this are threaded through the bait



and if you want to resort back to a bottom bait its a case of just taken if of the trace .
i aslo make some for popping up live baits or smaller baits over weed





hope this helps

has expected, a top post from a top bloke... and some rep from me too

thanx kev top man as allways

tackle tart wrote:thought you,de like them stotty

a lot i twisted my ones on thats a much better idea

Nice write up tackletart

So I'm presuming the wire with the looped end is thread back down the bait from its mouth and out its ass end?
But where/how do you fix that loop back onto the rig?

Cheers

http://www.hooklinks.co.uk/pike/navigation2/pikeframe.html?=inserts.html

click on the link......

NIDGE MAC wrote:http://www.hooklinks.co.uk/pike/navigation2/pikeframe.html?=inserts.html

click on the link......

think this is the one your after Nidge

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hooklinks.co.uk/pike/rigs/images/bait-inserts.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hooklinks.co.uk/pike/rigs/inserts.html&usg=__P4leFydKIX6xbXlUktcSEGu8mCI=&h=149&w=300&sz=7&hl=en&start=10&um=1&tbnid=gBv-teN1SpTWTM:&tbnh=58&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpop%2Bup%2Bdaed%2Bbaits%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4WZPC_enGB344GB345%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

thats the one paul, it just messed me about abit on the page....

NIDGE MAC wrote:thats the one paul, it just messed me about abit on the page....

did the same to me

put the link onto the trace first by passing it over the swivel end



then hollow out the bait to make a place for the wooden insert to fit first, best to do this with the baits still frozen but make sure not to split the bait
gently push a thin strong pin i made mine from a wall tie with a small split ring on the end but you could use a long baiting needle or stringer needle all its got to do is pull the link through the bait



once you have pulled it through attach your bouyant stick and pull back into the bait and then attach trebles into the bait now it ready to attach to your rig

the thing im wondering now is can i use this on a running lead set up or should i use it with a fixed lead style using carp tail and rubber setup so its fixed but lead can breakaway if needed

craigpix2000 wrote:the thing im wondering now is can i use this on a running lead set up or should i use it with a fixed lead style using carp tail and rubber setup so its fixed but lead can breakaway if needed

The secret is to minimise resistance Pike dont like resistance thats why you fish with open spools not a bait runner so running rigs all the way

yes you can the lead runs on the main line the attachment is on the trace itself

im just woried tho that i will c my bait floating on top lol pike zigrig lol

craigpix2000 wrote:im just woried tho that i will c my bait floating on top lol pike zigrig lol

pinch 2 SSG on the trace

its will you can add weights to your trace to counter balance so just the bait pops up and not the whole trace but over heavy weed let it come off the full length of the trace

and also when you tighten every thing up to put into your drop off you tighten up to the lead so it can,t float to the surface

ah ha!

Nice one mate, cheers

Did some one press the Negative by mistake on Kevin come on own up that’s not you again Craig with them heavy hands again

nightwatchman wrote:

ah ha!

Nice one mate, cheers

spot on there you go worth poping over was it not

tackle tart wrote:put the link onto the trace first by passing it over the swivel end



then hollow out the bait to make a place for the wooden insert to fit first, best to do this with the baits still frozen but make sure not to split the bait
gently push a thin strong pin i made mine from a wall tie with a small split ring on the end but you could use a long baiting needle or stringer needle all its got to do is pull the link through the bait



once you have pulled it through attach your bouyant stick and pull back into the bait and then attach trebles into the bait now it ready to attach to your rig

pos left... not taken away......

NIDGE MAC wrote:thats the one paul, it just messed me about abit on the page....

ere nidge old lad can do one better