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Post by russ91 on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:13 pm

ONCE YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT YOUR VENUE OF CHOICE THE MOST CRUCIAL DECISION YOU WILL MAKE OF THE WHOLE SESSION IS THE DECISION OVER THE CHOICE OF SWIM.

THE BIGGEST PIECE OF ADVISE I CAN GIVE TO YOU ON THIS SUBJECT IS TO DO SOME HOMEWORK. DONT TURN UP WITH NO IDEA ABOUT THE LAKE, AND DONT JUST DROP YOUR GEAR IN THE FIRST SWIM YOU SEE JUST BECAUSE ITS CLOSE TO THE CAR. I MADE FOUR VISITS TO MY LOCAL VENUE BEFORE I EVEN WET A LINE IN ANGER. GO FOR A WALK AROUND, TALK TO THE REGULARS ON THE LAKE, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME AROUND, INSPECT EVERY SWIM, THERE WILL BE CERTAIN AREAS THAT PRODUCE CATS ON THE BANK ON A REGULAR BASIS. EVEN BETTER IS TO TALK TO THE OWNER OR BAILIFF IF YOU BUMP INTO THEM. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY RECENT CAPTURES FROM THE VENUE AND ANY PEGS THAT SHOULD BE AVOIDED. THIS WORKED WELL FOR ME AS I BANKED MY FIRST CAT AT TWENTY POUND ONLY A FEW HOURS INTO MY FIRST EVER CATFISH SESSION AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED BACK.

ONCE YOU HAVE CHOSEN YOUR PEG SPEND SOME TIME HAVING A GOOD LOOK AT IT. THERE ARE VARIOUS THINGS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT SHOULD DECIDE WHERE YOUR BAITS WILL GO.



AS A RULE I ALWAYS TRY AND FISH A ROD IN THE MARGINS. THIS IS A VERY PRODUCTIVE AREA IF CHOSEN CORRECTLY AS THE WELLS WILL PATROL THE MARGINS LOOKING FOR FOOD ITEMS WASHED UP THERE. WHEN CHOOSING ANY LOCATION FOR A BAIT I WILL ALWAYS TRY TO FISH ON A FIRM BOTTOM. FOR SOME REASON I HAVE FOUND THAT THE WELS IS NOT TOO FOND OF PICKING A BOTTOM FISHED BAIT UP FROM A BOTTOM THAT IS VERY SOFT AND SILTY. FIND FIRM CLAY OR GRAVEL AND YOU ARE IN BUSINESS. WHEN FISHING THE MARGINS I LIKE TO LOOK FOR COVER SUCH AS REEDS, LILLY PADS OR OVERHANGING TREES. THIS IS ESPECAILLY IMPORTANT WHEN FISHING THROUGH THE DAYLIGHT HOURS. PUT YOURSELF IN THE POSITION OF THE FISH. IT IS A PREDOMINATLY NOCTURNAL HUNTER, WHICH MEANS IT WILL TEND TO HIDE AWAY THROUGH THE DAY. LOOK FOR SHADOW, SHADE AND COVER AND YOU WONT GO FAR WRONG. BY FISHING TIGHT TO COVER YOU WILL INCREASE YOUR CHANCE OF CATCHING THROUGHOUT THE DAY.



ONE OF MY OTHER MAIN TARGET AREAS ARE ISLANDS. THESE ARE SERIOUS CAT HOTSPOTS AS THEY PROVIDE COVER IN THE LAKE FOR PREY FISH SO IN TURN BECOME HUNTING GROUNDS FOR CATFISH. IF YOUR CHOSEN VENUE HAS AN ISLAND FEATURE THAT IS WITHIN CASTING AND BAITING RANGE THEN DONT HESITATE TO GIVE IT A GO. ONCE AGAIN THOUGH LOOK FOR COVER AGAINST THE ISLAND AND AIM FOR THAT.



OVERHANGING TREES ARE ALWAYS MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE AS THEY PROVIDE COVER ON THE SURFACE AND ANY ROOT GROWTH WILL PROVIDE SHELTER UNDER THE SURFACE. THEY ARE ALSO A MAGNET FOR PREY FISH AND I HAVE HAD MANY SESSIONS OF MULTIPLE CAPTURES FROM UNDER THE SAME TREE. ONE THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT IF YOU HOOK ONE IT WILL PROBABLY HEAD STRIGHT BACK UNDER THE TREE SO KEEP YOUR ROD TIP DOWN, EVEN UNDER THE SURFACE IF YOU HAVE TOO, OR THE FISH WILL SIMPLY BREAK YOU OFF ON THE BRANCHES.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE OF WATER DEPTH IN YOUR CHOSEN SWIM I TEND TO FIND THAT IT DOESNT REALLY MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE ON CATCH RATE. I HAVE CAUGHT FROM TWO FOOT AND TWENTY FOOT DEPTH. I THINK IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE MAKE UP OF THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE RATHER THAN THE DEPTH OF IT.




THIS ADVISE ALL GOES OUT OF THE WINDOW HOWEVER IF YOU ARE NOT FISHING ON THE BOTTOM. IF YOU ARE FISHING ON THE SURFACE OR IN THE UPPER LAYERS OF WATER THEN YOUR CONSIDERATIONS ARE VASTLY DIFFERENT. IF YOU ARE FISHING A VENUE WHERE THE CATS WILL FEED ACTIVELY ON THE SURFACE THEN YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY SEE AND HEAR THEM DOING IT. THE GULP GULP IS UNMISTAKABLE. YOU MAY FIND THAT THIS MAY HAPPEN IN ONLY A FEW CERTAIN AREAS OF THE WATER. IF THIS IS THE CASE THEN ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE TO SAY THATS WHERE TO PUT YOUR BAITS. IF HOWEVER THIS FEEDING PATTERN IS MORE SPREAD OUT THEN I WOULD ADVISE FISHING SURFACE BAITS IN MORE OPEN WATER. DONT ASK WHY BUT IT SEEMS TO WORK FOR ME. IT MAY BE THAT THE VIBRATIONS GIVEN OFF BY SURFACE BAITS AND RIGS ARE PICKED UP MORE EASILY, WHO KNOWS, BUT IF IN DOUBT THEN THIS IS WHERE YOU WILL FIND ME PUTTING MY SURFACE BAITS THATS FOR SURE.
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Post by NIDGE MAC on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:22 pm

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Post by ryan on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:25 pm

good post that russ i want to try for moggys next year Twisted Evil
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Post by NIDGE MAC on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:27 pm

you,ll have to come with us next year ryan......
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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:29 pm

good job Russ i think i will try and get a few out next year i'm lucky as i have 4 waters very close to me all with cats in just Darren and my self are after some very big carp next year so could get shelved again geek

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Post by russ91 on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:29 pm

ill hav u 2 hooked on them this time next year lol
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Post by russ91 on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:31 pm

Stotty wrote:good job Russ i think i will try and get a few out next year i'm lucky as i have 4 waters very close to me all with cats in just Darren and my self are after some very big carp next year so could get shelved again geek

there is about 3 aroung yorkshire that i want to try next season and im also of the wales for a week in june to a venue with 60lb + cats in
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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:32 pm

russ91 wrote:ill hav u 2 hooked on them this time next year lol

they do pull your string i have caugh most of my ones while carp fishing they dont half fight as they can swim backwards ony other thik i know that can do that is an eel

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Post by NIDGE MAC on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:34 pm

i would,nt mind it mate, just getting out there is a bonus, i,m pretty lucky the Wife understands, its not like i do drugs/go out on the piss all the time, i work for my money and i spend it on my past time ( fishing and more fishing gear)........
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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:37 pm

russ91 wrote:
Stotty wrote:good job Russ i think i will try and get a few out next year i'm lucky as i have 4 waters very close to me all with cats in just Darren and my self are after some very big carp next year so could get shelved again geek

there is about 3 aroung yorkshire that i want to try next season and im also of the wales for a week in june to a venue with 60lb + cats in

this was one that my mate had this year

that was i think about 40 scratch
just trying to find the photo of my mate Barry with the 60 he has this year

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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:40 pm

another of Colin


and the 60

very bad photo off of my phone


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Post by ryan on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:41 pm

there a ugly fish but i bet they put up a scrap
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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:45 pm

ryan wrote:there a ugly fish but i bet they put up a scrap

very good fighting fish i know a lot of hard core carpers that hate them but i will take one if it take the bait









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Post by russ91 on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:46 pm

put up a fight is a understatement mate they dont run out of energy ask nidge how much of a fight mine put up even when on the bank it was batering me black and blue on my ribs n arms
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Post by NIDGE MAC on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:51 pm

that was,nt the cat fish that was me.. Prank no he,s right the lad was pulled all over the place.... big strong feckers...i,m going for it next summer..... New PB and not just oaklands..... Suspect
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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:02 pm

NIDGE MAC wrote:that was,nt the cat fish that was me.. Prank no he,s right the lad was pulled all over the place.... big strong feckers...i,m going for it next summer..... New PB and not just oaklands..... Suspect

come to Essex


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Post by russ91 on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:06 pm

i might have to come viset you nexy year stotty
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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:10 pm

russ91 wrote:i might have to come viset you nexy year stotty


I can take 2 at a time i know Woody wants to have a go and Dan was itching but am Tim and gaz said yes so if you and Nidge want to do one we can sort it out just make sure the old git has loads of tea lol!

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Post by russ91 on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:12 pm

lmao what do u recon nidge fancy going to visit the Essex birds lol Twisted Evil
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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:15 pm

russ91 wrote:lmao what do u recon nidge fancy going to visit the Essex birds lol Twisted Evil


Old boy would not know what hit him lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

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Post by NIDGE MAC on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:22 pm

Cool Smoking bring em on mate....... Twisted Evil
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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:24 pm

NIDGE MAC wrote:Cool Smoking bring em on mate....... Twisted Evil

you want to do it Nidge let me know i drive past on of the lakes every night so when they start coming out i will let you know and we can go do 24hrs on it New PB

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Post by NIDGE MAC on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:30 pm

yes not a problem..... hoping to pack this smoking lark in soon, my chest won,t take anymore.... Cool Smoking R-I-P
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Post by russ91 on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:33 pm

im temped to stop smokeing to mate but i hav to admit i do enjoy a sig
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Post by Stotty on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:35 pm

and we can use the bait boat there and the carp go hi 20's Wink

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