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Post by Stotty on Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:12 am

The Hair Rig is a very useful piece of fishing tackle allowing you to present baits without them sitting directly on your hook therefore improving its efficiency. They are mainly associated with boilees but also work effectively with most other baits. The hair rig come about in the 70's and has revolutionised carp fishing but i have caught a lot of fish using it catfish tench etc.


The modern day Hair-rig was devised by Kevin Maddocks and Len Middleton in the late 70ís. It was while conducting tank tests that they concluded that Carp were actually frightened by the effect of the hook and hooklength passing over their lips.

It can fool the Carp to confidently pick up the bait and pass it back to the Pharyngeal teeth without feeling the effect of the hook or hooklength over itís lips. By then too late he is hooked.

There are several ways to present the bait in the old days you would just tie a length of thin braid to the bend in the hook and use that but now we have the knotless knot.






Knotless Knot / hair rig with a boilie attached.





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Re: The Hair-rig

Post by tackle tart on Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:35 pm

good info there

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Re: The Hair-rig

Post by manxnorton on Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:39 pm

Dan,
if i get that sonubait pellet can i try hair rig? what LB line should i make up the hooklength and what sz hook Question
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Re: The Hair-rig

Post by Dando on Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:33 am

manxnorton wrote:Dan,
if i get that sonubait pellet can i try hair rig? what LB line should i make up the hooklength and what sz hook Question
many thanks
Brian

if your fishing 6lb line as you did in your match then if your carp fishing as well i'd go down to 5lb that way if the rig does snap the fish isn't carrying the full rig which could kill the fish.

as for pellets, yes they can be used on the hair rig but you will have to drill them before adding them

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Post by stingray on Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:11 am

DanDanUK wrote:
manxnorton wrote:Dan,
if i get that sonubait pellet can i try hair rig? what LB line should i make up the hooklength and what sz hook Question
many thanks
Brian

if your fishing 6lb line as you did in your match then if your carp fishing as well i'd go down to 5lb that way if the rig does snap the fish isn't carrying the full rig which could kill the fish.

as for pellets, yes they can be used on the hair rig but you will have to drill them before adding them


or superglue a couple together either side of the hair Innocent Whistle
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Re: The Hair-rig

Post by Badger on Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:40 am

Brian, don't listen to these armatures! Liar HaHaHa If you are going for Sonubait pellets then go for the Hooker "s" pellet. Is a soft hookable pellet that will go straight on to your hair rig with just a baiting needle. No need to drill. Or you can use pellet bands to hold them on.



Or you could go for the Hali-hookers.



Don't be fooled by the picture. The pellets in this range go right up to 16mm so plenty big enough for what you are after.

Get yourself some of these too and make hair rigging them a breeze!

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Post by Dando on Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:30 pm

Badger wrote:Brian, don't listen to these armatures! Liar HaHaHa If you are going for Sonubait pellets then go for the Hooker "s" pellet. Is a soft hookable pellet that will go straight on to your hair rig with just a baiting needle. No need to drill. Or you can use pellet bands to hold them on.



Or you could go for the Hali-hookers.



Don't be fooled by the picture. The pellets in this range go right up to 16mm so plenty big enough for what you are after.

Get yourself some of these too and make hair rigging them a breeze!


well MR Carper !!!

Pellet Bands and soft hookers are sh!t for casting at distance they fly off the hook and the soft hookers if you do manage to cast and keep them on you then have the trouble of "Nuisance Fish" Roach, skimmers, gudgeon all nibbling off your soft hook bait leaving you with ....ZIP !!!

So for the little extra attention in bait care and presentation i would drill your pellets and attach them to the hair rig, i wouldn't glue them because it makes your mono/braid brittle and it would eventually snap off, plus if your gluing them your going to have to make new rigs every time you wanna change your bait


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Re: The Hair-rig

Post by Badger on Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:37 pm

Well these don't fly off the hook and a designed to not fall apart after the first cast. And seeing as he was asking about Sonubaits then this is what I would go for. Plus if you use them with your pallet feeder the hook bait is in the pellet mix out of the way of the small fish!
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Post by Dando on Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:45 pm

Badger wrote:Well these don't fly off the hook and a designed to not fall apart after the first cast. And seeing as he was asking about Sonubaits then this is what I would go for. Plus if you use them with your pallet feeder the hook bait is in the pellet mix out of the way of the small fish!
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well if thats the case then by all means use them, but at some point they are going to be exposed to to Nuisance Fish and compared to a solid pellet it won't last long at all pellet feeder or not !

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Post by Badger on Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:51 pm

But! (this could go on forever! HaHaHa ) Fishing with the feeder is meant to get the bigger fish into your swim and attacking the bait so your little fish would be forced out of the way! Pellet feeder fishing on commercial waters is supposed to be a bit more action that chuck out a large bait to the horizon and sit on your hands for a few days Sleep waiting for that bite that may come along Sleep if you have the stamina to wait Sleep and wait Sleep . Sleep Sleep Sleep

AND....

DanDanUK wrote:the above method with the pellets softened and molded around the feeder is a very good and effective method it's the one i use the other week which bagged me a 13lber, defiantly worth using !!!

I shall say no more.......... Bla Bla Bla lol!
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Post by Dando on Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:02 pm

Badger wrote:But! (this could go on forever! HaHaHa ) Fishing with the feeder is meant to get the bigger fish into your swim and attacking the bait so your little fish would be forced out of the way! Pellet feeder fishing on commercial waters is supposed to be a bit more action that chuck out a large bait to the horizon and sit on your hands for a few days Sleep waiting for that bite that may come along Sleep if you have the stamina to wait Sleep and wait Sleep . Sleep Sleep Sleep

AH BUT lol!

i agree it is meant to get FISH into your swim !!! it's FACT that the break down rate on soft hookers is much quicker than a solid pellet, solid pellets have the advantage IMO

1) because they last longer in the water
2) develop a softer outer layer when they absorb water (like a soft hooker)
3) cast further

i don't have anything against soft hookers i just think if your targeting the bigger specimens you want to be using somthing a little more hardy witch will last longer and allow you to cast to the distances you require

soft hookers are more the match bait IMO and befor you go there i know pellets were designed for match anglers!!!

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Post by Badger on Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:04 pm

DanDanUK wrote:
AH BUT lol!

i agree it is meant to get FISH into your swim !!! it's FACT that the break down rate on soft hookers is much quicker than a solid pellet, solid pellets have the advantage IMO

1) because they last longer in the water
2) develop a softer outer layer when they absorb water (like a soft hooker)
3) cast further

i don't have anything against soft hookers i just think if your targeting the bigger specimens you want to be using somthing a little more hardy witch will last longer and allow you to cast to the distances you require

soft hookers are more the match bait IMO and befor you go there i know pellets were designed for match anglers!!!


And that is what Brian is getting into!!! Bla Bla Bla
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Post by Dando on Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:06 pm

Lick my scrotum Bla Bla Bla

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Post by Badger on Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:11 pm

Oh yes!!! He shoots, he scores!!! 1 - 0 to the Badger!!! LMAO


But I hope every one reading this is not just entertained by the expert way ALL of Dan's arguments were shot down! The banter was also educational! So take note.

Bla Bla Bla lol!
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Post by G30RG3 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:22 am

yh i have to agree with badger on the 's pellets' there bloody amazin !! me and my mate went fishing down my local lake once i was fishing a halibut pellet legering with pva bags and he was waggler fishing with 's pellets' he caught 5 car ranging from 10lb-14lb and i blanked...
also tryed out there new strawberry s pellets on a feeder a few weeks back, down this other lake and caught 6 carp in and afternoon!!
there not like your average crappy hookable pellets that fall off every cast there a hell of alot better and stay on the hook for hours, if your feeder fishing, float fishing or even fishing for big carp, these cant go wrong there bloody brilliant!

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Post by manxnorton on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:43 pm

Dan,
as you know i tried the 6MM Sonubait S-Pellet on sunday with the 3mm for loose feeding, but i found on this lake the strawberry wasn't having success on the hook. the 3 mm was good at getting a lot of Carp to my swim, as a attractant though micro pellet were the dogs lads! no sooner thrown out then the fish were like maniacs, suppose thats why i got 27 of them once i found the right balance of method bait etc.
I am going to try the pellet on hair rig next time out maybe bigger size.
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Post by billy barbel on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:57 pm

Jerry Jerry You two should no better, brian i prefer to buy the hair rigs ready made.
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Post by nixon on Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:00 pm

This carp fishing malarky seems far too technical, Head Bang Head Bang

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Post by billy barbel on Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:03 pm

Just smile and wave mate, smile and wave ( thats what i will be doing ) lol! lol! if you can open a can of lager your half way there with these guys the rest is just Fishing 2 :Fishing:
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Post by nixon on Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:09 pm

Lmafao, thinks thats gunna be my main look for the weekend, "blank expression, and dumb smile" "oh look, there's Tim"

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Post by NIDGE MAC on Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:50 pm

thats the way mate, your gunna fit in nicely........ drunken
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Post by billy barbel on Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:51 pm

what time you and the boy arriving nidge on the saturday ??
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Post by Stotty on Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:44 pm

billy barbel wrote:Jerry Jerry You two should no better, brian i prefer to buy the hair rigs ready made.

Ii will show you how to do them once you see how easy it is you will never buy one again Wink
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Post by billy barbel on Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:46 pm

Dont show anybody else i have got a shopfull of them lol! lol! lol!
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Post by Stotty on Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:57 pm

billy barbel wrote:Dont show anybody else i have got a shopfull of them lol! lol! lol!

Foot In Mouth LMAO
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