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Post by mark on Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:06 pm

hi lads this year i'm after trying the freezer boilies. i have done well on shelf lifes in the past but i've been convinced the freezer baits are better, not only for the fish but for water quality too. now i've just seen on a video a guy air drying his boilies. he said he dries them for about 2 weeks then they will last indeffinatly. they do go rock hard but then he wash's them out and adds things like betane and oils n stuff. now it does sound like a bit of arsing about and i wondered if any of you lads use the freezer baits and whats your take on this.
also if you defrost your boilies do you have to air dry them or just wait till they have gone soft (defrosted) before you use them. and i take it you shouldn't re-freeze them
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Post by NIDGE MAC on Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:39 pm

i use them more than anything mark,
ive got loads left from just taking enough to last the session every time i,m out...
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Post by jason on Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:40 pm

i only air dry them if i need them to last a week or so if not just defrost them and use them and if you dont use them all they are fine to refreeze once i wouldnt refreeze them more then once hope this helps
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Post by sardarel on Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:44 pm

I only use fresh boilies ..

when you de frost them dont keep them in plastic bags on long sessions or they will go mouldy..

keep them if poss in a mesh bag...

I will re freeze them once if on a short session or alternatively put the spares through a blender until a fine crumb and add it to my ground bait bucket.. what a way of making a quality ground bait..

sometimes they are brought in a kilo bag.. others in a 10kg tube...

Stotty has his rolled and they come in a sack and then we seperate them into session bags and keep them in the freezer...


Sometimes I smash a few up and let them dry out.. and they go in my pellet bucket...

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Post by mark on Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:51 pm

thats a good tip daz with the unused boilies.
the video i watched was on advanced carp website and it was the editor who did the video. he said boilies loose a lot of thier attraction as soon as they are boiled,. so he dries them till they are rock hard so he can then rehydrate them and add more attractors to increase thier pulling power.
are freezer really soft, almost like paste. i saw that video blog craig did and those boilies are what i am after using, they were more like a paste that i imagine just turn to mush and release all thier goodness as soon as the carp gets them in its mouth
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Post by Si Seaton on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:02 pm

me and dan are just out dangling lines using a bait thats not out on the market yet, but has fantastic results in winter, as we have found out so far, all will be revealed in our blogs 2moro.
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Post by NIDGE MAC on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:02 pm

Si Seaton wrote:me and dan are just out dangling lines using a bait thats not out on the market yet, but has fantastic results in winter, as we have found out so far, all will be revealed in our blogs 2moro.

you tease....
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Post by Si Seaton on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:04 pm

dan says HAHA
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Post by Dave The Rave on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:09 pm

they blanked nidge dont worry lol
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Post by NIDGE MAC on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:20 pm

i think they will have had it large.....

well si will have if dan got him..... Danbum lol!
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Post by mark on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:24 pm

hahaha thats more beliievable nidge
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Post by Si Seaton on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:33 pm

that made us chuckle! Its not gay unless you push back Ohhh Small Violin
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Post by mark on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:35 pm

have you had ya first welham common then si, tell us that much at least
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Post by NIDGE MAC on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:38 pm

Si Seaton wrote:that made us chuckle! Its not gay unless you push back Ohhh Small Violin


lol! i bet dan said if it hurts" make the noise of an animal...
when he put it in si when moo"







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Post by Si Seaton on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:39 pm

find out 2moro wont. Check out our blogs. Dont worry the scales are correct. And one of us has had a PB New PB
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Post by mark on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:44 pm

hahaha pb eh, well it'll be good if dan has gone the 20lb mark but i think your the one with the pb. we'll wait till the morrow to find out.
have you heard patch has raised the heat with pike comp at 19lb 1 oz
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Post by Stotty on Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:41 am

I will tell you a few things about shelf lifeís in the old days shelf lifeís were exactly the same as freezer baits but had more moisture taken out of them. The trick we used to do was mix 50/50 shelf and freezer this was the freezers hardened up a bit and the shelf lifes took on some of the moisture. This day and age itís not the same freezer bait has nothing added during the mixing process. As such, because it contains fresh egg as a binder, it will start to go off after a few days if exposed to normal room conditions with the shelf lifeís preservatives are added during the mixing process and the moisture content is also reduced A shelf-life bait, in terms of manufacturing will differ in two ways. Firstly there will be preservatives added. There are various human grade food preservatives on the market which you probably consume everyday without even knowing it, the most common is good old Salt this isnít a bad thing as I add it to loads of my baits. Then you have the good old E numbers Its not just the fish eating it Mark I spoke to Darren about this a long time ago its what happens when baits of either type go into the water is just as important a freezer bait will break down a lot quicker if a boilies has loads of preservatives it can sit on a lake bottom for months. as the inclusion of a preservative will prevent the growth of organisms both in an out of the water when they dredged Walthamstow they pulled out 2 skip loads of a brand of shelf lifeís from the silt. I used to air dry my boilies for France because of the Crayís and other pain in the ass stuff. I found that water from freshly cooked hemp is a great way to rehydrate them and adds another dimension to the bait. Hope this makes sense and why I donít use a lot of shelf lifeís the only ones I do carry with me are Nutrabaits trigga shelf lifeís as I know there a great bait but i would rather go to my fridge and pull out a freash bait as I my self have more confident itís like the ready meal or the nice fresh home cooked meal what would you rather eat?

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Post by mark on Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:52 am

home cooked all the mate. those are the reasons i'm wanting to try em this year. top carp anglers only use freezer baits n maybe thats another reason they get good results.

i like the thought of air drying them and then rehydrating them with a bit of my own flavours n stuff. i think i'm right when i say i could take about 5kg to elphi well you know where, i'm not sure i'm allowed to say it yet haha. if they are air dried then what i dont use i can bring back and rehydrate them the next time i need em. is that right stotty
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Post by Stotty on Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:57 am

Just get an air drying bag that way you can hang them up and stop rats from getting to them and turn them regally

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Post by mark on Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:04 am

do they soften up once rehydrated then, i want a really soft bait ya see
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Post by Stotty on Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:16 am

mark wrote:do they soften up once rehydrated then, i want a really soft bait ya see

yes but you will have to do some tests as every one is different how hard it was in the first place to how soft you want the bait....

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Post by blower on Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:36 am

Stotty wrote:I will tell you a few things about shelf lifeís in the old days shelf lifeís were exactly the same as freezer baits but had more moisture taken out of them. The trick we used to do was mix 50/50 shelf and freezer this was the freezers hardened up a bit and the shelf lifes took on some of the moisture. This day and age itís not the same freezer bait has nothing added during the mixing process. As such, because it contains fresh egg as a binder, it will start to go off after a few days if exposed to normal room conditions with the shelf lifeís preservatives are added during the mixing process and the moisture content is also reduced A shelf-life bait, in terms of manufacturing will differ in two ways. Firstly there will be preservatives added. There are various human grade food preservatives on the market which you probably consume everyday without even knowing it, the most common is good old Salt this isnít a bad thing as I add it to loads of my baits. Then you have the good old E numbers Its not just the fish eating it Mark I spoke to Darren about this a long time ago its what happens when baits of either type go into the water is just as important a freezer bait will break down a lot quicker if a boilies has loads of preservatives it can sit on a lake bottom for months. as the inclusion of a preservative will prevent the growth of organisms both in an out of the water when they dredged Walthamstow they pulled out 2 skip loads of a brand of shelf lifeís from the silt. I used to air dry my boilies for France because of the Crayís and other pain in the ass stuff. I found that water from freshly cooked hemp is a great way to rehydrate them and adds another dimension to the bait. Hope this makes sense and why I donít use a lot of shelf lifeís the only ones I do carry with me are Nutrabaits trigga shelf lifeís as I know there a great bait but i would rather go to my fridge and pull out a freash bait as I my self have more confident itís like the ready meal or the nice fresh home cooked meal what would you rather eat?

depends on who's cooking it. lol
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