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Post by tackle tart on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:03 pm

THE HISTORY OF THE BOILIES

after reading Kens great peices on how fishing was in his younger days
i got to thinking what could i do that would be relavent with fishing of today but started around forty years ago and bingo!! like a bolt of lightning i thought A BRIEF HISTOY OF BOILIES !! which are now so high on most carp angler menu,s
so here goes .


basically a Boilie is a boiled a baits so they are know as boilies , they are usually made with combinations of fishmeals, milk proteins, bird foods,or semolina and soya flour,
these are mixed with flavourings and attractors of anglers choice and eggs are used as a binding agent and then boiled to form hard coated baits which will last in the water.

so when and how did it all come about we have to really go back just
beyond the boilie to see where the idea of boilies first stemmed from
which was originaly paste baits .

back in the late sixties to early seventies a kent angler named Fred wilton and a few freinds had a theory that he could vastly improve paste baits .
fred wilton started to make baits containing high levels proteins ,these were casien and calcium caseinate these came from milk to these he added varius vitamins and minerals .
,his theory was if you gave fish food that was better for them they would know it was better and eat that food item .
these were to been known as HNV baits( high nutritional value )and later as high protien baits.
the boilie was a direct transition from these HNV pastes and as anglers were so successful catching on these pastes they also caught alot of nuisance fish because the bait was soft ,so the paste was made with egg and boiled and so the first boilie was created by anglers that are now fishing legends
now anglers were secretive during the seventies and if you wanted to use boilie you had to make your own so although the boilie was about it was not yet really readerly available to everybody.

it wasn,t until 1980 when a massive step forward in carp fishing came along in the form of the hair rig ,that was first thought of by Len Middleton and Kevin Maddocks this hair rig saw anglers banking lots of fish ,and open a new era in carp fishing .
as i,ve said boilies made carp fishing alot easier and as i said above there was alot of secretcy around carp fishing making it hard for anglers to get it
now with the hair rig now more available and more and more anglers making there own boilies and they were also making them for others the seem to come together at around this time and this lead eventually to the first commercial ready made boilies being made in 1983 by Richworth baits who have now been around for the last 26 years and i don,t know of any one who,s not tried there baits and some of there baits have caught the biggest fish in the country .
since then many companies have sprung up such as Nutrabaits ,Nash, Solar, Mainline, just to name a few as there are so many now , given the anglers an even a bigger choice to what they want to use which when walking down the racks upon racks of bags of brighlty coloured nicely smelling bag of boilies it can be nearly as hard to choose your boilies as actully catching a carp!.
boilies are now one of the most established carp baits around and anglers have a wide choice of colours and flavoured boilies aswell as different shapes and pop ups to.


they also come in an array of different sizes from tiny micro boilies to up to overlarger baits 40mm which are used on some big waters to hopefully single out that bigger fish .
i can remeber some were even made neutral and they brought out various flavours that you used to spray onto the nuetrals so you could have your own flavoured boilies with out the hassle of making them .
the early boilies were shelf life this means they have got preservatives in them and can be kept for a long time and they are still around today but now you can get boilies with out preservatives inthem and these have to be kept frozen and these are known as freezer baits .
there has been many discussion between which type is best and its widely thought by most anglers now that freezer baits which don,t contain the preservatives are better .
this means the ingredients used to make them will not lose much of their nutrients and attraction before being used in a fishing situations but this does show in the price as freezer baits are normally more expensive to buybuy a few pounds .
nowaday there seem to be a new flavour of boilie from the many companies out there every month and every carper i know usually has his or her favourites that they fish with CONFIDENCE !!!!!


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Post by Stotty on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:13 pm

Yoda The rest is history have some rep for that one Kevin

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Post by billy barbel on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:16 pm

Do you know something Kev? i never ever wondered why they were called boilies !! but now i know...nice one mate
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Post by sardarel on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:30 pm

Rep given Kev..

nice read that and prob answered a good few questions from members..

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Post by Stotty on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:32 pm

This will take you back Kevin in my collection of carp books and fishing mags howís this

And whatís more it was £9.95 then





there is a great article on the effects of boilies on carp. And the Forties list update with a list of UK 40lb fish and who caught them

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Post by billy barbel on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:33 pm

He looks like one of those porn extras stotty how olds that?
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Post by Stotty on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:34 pm

1991 still goes for about £5-8

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Post by billy barbel on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:38 pm

what did it say about the efect of boilies on carp? would be interesting to see what some of them were seeing as how we are nearly 20 years down the line.
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Post by tackle tart on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:41 pm

that certainly does paul and its still going strong today but is a bit more advertising orientated now don,t you think ??

i used to love reading the articles by tim paisley and ken townley

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Post by Stotty on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:46 pm

Stotty wrote:1991 still goes for about £5-8


the long and short of it was they would be a beneficial effect in carp growth and general health given that no one actually force feeds carp a fish will stop feeding when its full. They do say that you could pollute a lake if some one was to put several hundreds of pounds in.

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Post by Stotty on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:48 pm

tackle tart wrote:that certainly does paul and its still going strong today but is a bit more advertising orientated now don,t you think ??

i used to love reading the articles by tim paisley and ken townley

Not the same mag it was I am afraid. the days of Paisley, Cundiff (before he went mad lol! ) and a young Max cottis

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Post by longshot on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:55 pm

Great stuff Kevin. I was using boiled baits in the late 60's and catching a fair few Carp too. Not todays modern bollies, no my boiled baits were.... Spuds. Honestly.

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Post by tackle tart on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:58 pm

par boiled potatoes a great bait especialy dipped in golden syrup

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Post by Stotty on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:02 pm

tackle tart wrote:par boiled potatoes a great bait especialy dipped in golden syrup


easy to free line as you have not got to add any additional weight you could kill some one with just a single hook bait lol!

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Post by longshot on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:03 pm

The syrup was far to nice to give to the fish, lol.
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Post by longshot on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:06 pm

Stotty wrote:
tackle tart wrote:par boiled potatoes a great bait especialy dipped in golden syrup


easy to free line as you have not got to add any additional weight you could kill some one with just a single hook bait lol!


We must have looked like demented fools when striking into the fish. Getting the hook through the bait and into the fish, was a real challenge.
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Post by Stotty on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:09 pm

longshot wrote:
Stotty wrote:
tackle tart wrote:par boiled potatoes a great bait especialy dipped in golden syrup


easy to free line as you have not got to add any additional weight you could kill some one with just a single hook bait lol!


We must have looked like demented fools when striking into the fish. Getting the hook through the bait and into the fish, was a real challenge.


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Post by tackle tart on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:09 pm

like zorro drawing his sword

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Post by billy barbel on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:12 pm

who would have thought that the humble boilie would have developed into one of the worlds most diversified and copied baits from its humble beginnings.
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Post by Stotty on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:18 pm

billy barbel wrote:who would have thought that the humble boilie would have developed into one of the worlds most diversified and copied baits from its humble beginnings.

You also have to look at the amount of people it gives jobs to, there some big bait companies out there and a lot of little once chasing tails. Kevin and my self were only taking about this the other night. We all have a favorite. And some come and go. Some work some you canít get a bit on. Itís a fascinating subject if youíre a carp angler. Like your self Mr. B

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Post by Stotty on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:23 pm

hows this lads the old hooks

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Kevin Maddocks Cassien Hooks

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Post by tackle tart on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:29 pm

that so right paul its not just boilies now is it??

its all the other items such as : pop ups, glugs ,dips ,liquids, pellets to compliment the boilie you can get all manner of baiting packages now

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Post by tackle tart on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:31 pm

i remember how much the hook used to stand out but then so did the rigs
especially as we used to use beyer perlon mono and dacron that used to look like tow rope

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Post by sardarel on Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:54 pm

Stotty wrote:
tackle tart wrote:par boiled potatoes a great bait especialy dipped in golden syrup


easy to free line as you have not got to add any additional weight you could kill some one with just a single hook bait lol!

I remember going carpin with a tin of potatoes...

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Post by tackle tart on Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:20 pm

my favourite baits when i first started was
making paste baits using sausauge meat as the main ingredient it was a messy job aswell making it as a young lad

but my favouite bait at the time was the black magic paste but for the life of me i can,t remember who done it

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