jerkbait rod and reel needed ...... advice please

stingray wrote:thank you so much fellers , bed time now , I have Ady's pete and shimano until wednesday and i intend to catch a fish on it . So it's playtime again tomorrow afternoon ..... i had a follow from a pb type fish ( 7+ ) yesterday , who knows ? sorry for speeding still slippy

I think you will struggle this week, there head is in spawning mode and the weather wont let em. Go trout fishing this week is my prediction.

stingray wrote:one thing i noticed yesterday on the " lumpy canal " was that with that shimano reel you've nowhere to rest your thumb ..... it started aching after a couple of hours and after what woodchucker posted ( i saw him in the tackle shop returning what must have been the 12th reel yesterday afternoon ) I don't care how smooth the reel is I'll stick with the Abu's . These Abu's my dad gave me are entering their second decade of use , with a 30 year gap between the decades , they have never been serviced apart from the cleaning and oiling my old man gave them after every session and they are in MINT condition .
Ian , my 7000 reel is a right hander , it was my dad's favourite pike lure reel and he only bought the 5001c because he had some follows from serious perch and so decided to target them as well as the pike .....in your opinion , is the 7000 of any use in today's pike angling ? .....it seems very heavy and has the wing nut fixings i'd associate with a boat reel . I'm looking at it now and when i say mint ......it looks like it has just been delivered and never ever used but i know my dad used it for the best part of 10 years

giving something away about myself here lol

if it works who cares what it looks like or what others think

stingray wrote:thanks for that advice noodle ...... the old boy used to make his own lures back in the sixties and seventies . I think it's time to get his vices and tackle set up in the garage and get cracking doing exactly as you recommend . Might even have a go at making some of my own . That'd be a good thread actually ....... do we have any lure makers amongst our ranks ?

I i do make the odd one but i cant paint for toffe so they all end up looking like a kid (two year old) has painted em
im just finished drilling a couple of fox out to stop em going down like ex east enders star (can i say that)

if its gets edited ill know i suppose

still slippy wrote:

noodle wrote:before you list em on ebay im trying to get some decent crankbaits a couple of ernies depthraiders jakes grandmas etc not after loads but i think my armory is a little short when it come to trolling

unless any experienced trollers out there would car to recomend any?

I got all of them try be more specific about size and stuff. I have boxes and boxes full, not so many out and out trolling lures but some. Throw some "wish I had's" at me.

ah well you got me there ive got one of each so far to see how they work a depthraider shallow raider 6" jake
i would like here goes around four or five lures as back ups to casting baits that will work roughly between 10-30 feet on the trout waters i know the ultimate depth will depend on speed and braid out/ diameter

my aim is to find two or three patterns and buy three of each in various colours. for the deeper running lures obvious choice was the depthraider, and im trying to get my hands on an ernie to see which suits me more.
for shallower running lures the choice is frightening jake grandmas, zalt, zam, beleivers the list is endless so far ive managed to pick up off ebay for a fiver a jake, then a brand new depthraider, and shallow raider for 16 quid
ive things like the magnum by rapala, big mac by storm salmo sinking jack, rapala sliver (dont laugh please it was bought very early on)and some big old cranks from harris (half price offer of the day )

but for trolling im truly clueless hence why ive gone for the obvious choices

noodle wrote
"..... but for trolling im truly clueless hence why ive gone for the obvious choices[/quote]"

that's not totally clueless as you know the choices that are available ......... i didn't recognize a single lure by name in yours or slippy's posts . NOW THAT'S CLUELESS ( i'm referring here to myself noodle not you ) . From what i've read of your posts you seem far from clueless

stingray wrote:noodle wrote
"..... but for trolling im truly clueless hence why ive gone for the obvious choices

"

that's not totally clueless as you know the choices that are available ......... i didn't recognize a single lure by name in yours or slippy's posts . NOW THAT'S CLUELESS ( i'm referring here to myself noodle not you ) . From what i've read of your posts you seem far from clueless [/quote]

ok fair point ive a decent idea of my way around lures that id cast from boats or the bank all of those i mentioned you can do that with, the area im after increasing my knowledge of them is trolling lures as a method to cover water with a fair bit more speed id like to be able to fish lures at the same time, covering two depth bands which i have found to be fairly productive for me and they are 10-15 ft and 25-35 feet ive caught fish deeper and shallower but for me these are the depths to target on most of the big waters ive fished

now i dont own a boat and am reliant on hire boats on the trout waters so im a mere mortal in that sense which is were my ignorance comes in i have sod all knowledge of what lures will do when being towed behind the various craft i end up un that have motors ranging from 44lb thrust electrics to 5 horse petrol ones

to be honest what youve said applied to me only a few years ago ive bought some crap in the intermittent period as witnessed by my two junior shallow invaders a few weeks ago


now if you want some one to talk bait fishing with im on home turf there

Noodle,

I have a big ernie in perch, a "sinking" depth raider in yellow & gold (nice ) Or if you wanna BIG trolling lure I have a 10" nilsmaster invinceable, or a 11" jake. I don't boat fish so you are going to have to tell me whats good for trolling. All the abouve I've read are up to the job. Also have other things with mahoosive diveing lips.

noodle wrote:

stingray wrote:thanks for that advice noodle ...... the old boy used to make his own lures back in the sixties and seventies . I think it's time to get his vices and tackle set up in the garage and get cracking doing exactly as you recommend . Might even have a go at making some of my own . That'd be a good thread actually ....... do we have any lure makers amongst our ranks ?

I i do make the odd one but i cant paint for toffe so they all end up looking like a kid (two year old) has painted em
im just finished drilling a couple of fox out to stop em going down like ex east enders star (can i say that)

if its gets edited ill know i suppose

I'm the other way, carnt make em but I can paint em.

noodle , you make 'em . send 'em to slippy , who paints 'em sends 'em to me then I'll lose 'em at bottom of t ' Calder .

A word about lure fishing Stingray, 100lb power pro, the Calder comes to you

noodle wrote

" now if you want some one to talk bait fishing with im on home turf there "

slippy will tell you noodle ....... i know more about lurefishing than i do about baits
( where's that knobhead emoticon that i ordered ? )

still slippy wrote:A word about lure fishing Stingray, 100lb power pro, the Calder comes to you

some of those snags under the bridges must be cars and trains and planes .......snaps my 80lb wychwood jerk braid like fun ( I lost at least £100 worth of lures and traces last year ) . That is seriously shit line gents BEWARE

stingray wrote:noodle wrote

" now if you want some one to talk bait fishing with im on home turf there "

slippy will tell you noodle ....... i know more about lurefishing than i do about baits
( where's that knobhead emoticon that i ordered ? )

I thought we covered baits with a KISS, you told me that

KISS
mine and slippy's favourite mnemonic
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID

we did cover baits Ian but i still need the tuition , badly , it's a confidence thing ......i am so green you won't beleive it
i recognise a master and wish to learn

Theres nothing clever about a KISS, learn about the fish.

I'm no more of an expert than you. My advantage is knowing about fish, not tackle.

You can have the best tackle in the world, but poke it in the wrong place and it's worthless. I still use the same gear I did in the 80's. For all fish, not just pike.