The end for maggots ?

I read this week that pellet sales are now out selling maggot sales pound for pound, so is it the end for our little wriggly friends ? Ask anyone who doesnt fish what they know about the sport and i bet you will get the answer maggots more than a few times, so are we seeing a new generation in the chapter of baits or is it finally the last cast for the humble little maggot ?

I think it says more about good silverfish sport, the carp are pushing them out of the picture, in more ways than one.

It seems to be that most matches these days are also ordering more pellet and paste than maggots , i was looking at the match reports for this area and almost every one of them was won on pellet and paste and the odd one had maggot or caster, i hope we are not going down a road of no return ? surely the contents of the pellets and pastes etc (i know some are fish friendly) will start to affect the diet and health of the fish leading to obese lazy unhealthy fish, a bit like the kids in our schools we have seen whats happened there with fast food and lack of green space to run around in.................... lets hope not !!

i love magot it catches me enofght carp

todd123 wrote:i love magot it catches me enofght carp

yep in winter i have had carp over 20lb on them.

high-oil content pellets are causeing problems on many waters. Halibut pellets and high-oil trout pellets are probably the two most commonly used pellets, which can create a problem if lots of anglers are using them or if a particular individual is using them in huge quantities. Dont get me wrong here i used them but i used them as a hook bait. Coarse Fish Pellets and Animal Feed Pellets are a different thing. I use mixed pellets theses days High-oil/fat content pellets should be avoided at all costs during the cold winter ;months.

in winter i always take some maggots with me

the maggot will always have a place, don,t forget were they come from ( i know flys ) well ever there is something decomposing there will
be flys and maggots or vice verser, i like to use maggots aswell has many other baits.... most anglers will have started out on maggots.
but people follow trends so i think this is how it has come about,

I often use maggots for a carp and with success too,I use something similar to a hair but I place a maggot clip in it's place and thread on a bunch of maggots and that works a treat for me.

angling has vastly changed over the years especially on the match scene i can remember big matches all ways being held on the river systems around the uk .
i can remember competitions like the broads open attracting match anglers all around the uk and rivers like the trent being mecca,s for the match scene and cereal ground baits along with maggots be them pinkies. squats and the like scored the winning weights week in and week and gallons upon gallons were ordered every week by the anglers .
but in the mid eighties angling change with the rise of commercial fisheries and matches attendances starting to drop on the rivers for what ever reason whether this was due to the weight of bags of fish caught or for any other reason .
as the commercial fisheries got going more matches started to be held more and more during the nineties and these were filled with small carp for the match men and being reared and fed daily on pellets, pellets became used more and more by the anglers and again as pellet developed and being more user friendly the humble maggot has started to get used less and less by the match scene .
but the maggot is a brilliant bait and it will all ways be about even on pellet orientated commercial waters maggots can and does score very well .
anglers who fancy a couple of hour down the river or canal normally arms them selfs with a half or pint of maggot
i still use them a lot to catch my baits during the predator season and in the cooler month use them for carp and they,ve done me proud
i doubt they will ever disappear from the tackle shop might not be used as much and in the quantities they used to but they will all ways be about .

regards
kevin

yh my local water ,Newton park (martin bowler was there a few weeks back) is having major problems with halibut pellets, because every1 was catching on them everybody just literally threw them in by the ton because of this the pellet acts as a lacsetive and and the carp are crapping like crazy, resulting in high amino acid levels in the water, killing the carp. pretty gutted as that was like a brilliant water i used to spend hours up there and caught atleast 3 carp everytime,this year i went there a couple of times didnt catch a thing!
now the baliffs are on about banning halibut pellets!!!
anyone know if a bait companys released some 14mm maggots

yh my local water ,Newton park (martin bowler was there a few weeks back) is having major problems with halibut pellets, because every1 was catching on them everybody just literally threw them in by the ton because of this the pellet acts as a lacsetive and and the carp are crapping like crazy, resulting in high amino acid levels in the water, killing the carp.

The Uric Acid levels caused by too many fish in too small an area may have also contributed to the problem. However I am sure that the general lack of restraint in baiting up with pellets will cause an imballance in the acidity of the water, and both will necesitate the treating of the water by the addition of powdered limestone soon. Before the water warms up too much and the general fertility of the water causes a further deoxygenating fish kill.

On that cheerful note I will say hi and wish the site well.

BOF

BOF wrote:

yh my local water ,Newton park (martin bowler was there a few weeks back) is having major problems with halibut pellets, because every1 was catching on them everybody just literally threw them in by the ton because of this the pellet acts as a lacsetive and and the carp are crapping like crazy, resulting in high amino acid levels in the water, killing the carp.

The Uric Acid levels caused by too many fish in too small an area may have also contributed to the problem. However I am sure that the general lack of restraint in baiting up with pellets will cause an imballance in the acidity of the water, and both will necesitate the treating of the water by the addition of powdered limestone soon. Before the water warms up too much and the general fertility of the water causes a further deoxygenating fish kill.

On that cheerful note I will say hi and wish the site well.

BOF

and BOF

Welcome to our little site Bof. We are a little on the relaxed side here at UKFF but we do want everyone to enjoy them selves. So if you have any problems let us know and we will try to sort it out for you. Short version, Welcome and enjoy!

BOF wrote:

yh my local water ,Newton park (martin bowler was there a few weeks back) is having major problems with halibut pellets, because every1 was catching on them everybody just literally threw them in by the ton because of this the pellet acts as a lacsetive and and the carp are crapping like crazy, resulting in high amino acid levels in the water, killing the carp.

The Uric Acid levels caused by too many fish in too small an area may have also contributed to the problem. However I am sure that the general lack of restraint in baiting up with pellets will cause an imballance in the acidity of the water, and both will necesitate the treating of the water by the addition of powdered limestone soon. Before the water warms up too much and the general fertility of the water causes a further deoxygenating fish kill.

On that cheerful note I will say hi and wish the site well.

BOF

Hello again Bof Hope you join in here.

Gotta pull you up on the uric acid, fish excreat amonia as waste through the gills mainly, this is just food for bacteria in a healthy water. But your bang on with the "over baiting" observation.

Bof im sure you will enjoy this site.